cycle d'Ailill

[HornedCrapi]

J'ai lu dans 1 dictionnaire qui me semble 1 peu douteux quelque chose d'intéressant. Mais voilà, comme c'est douteux je ne sais pas trop quoi en penser.

Il est question d'un cycle d'Ailill, et l'auteur décrit ce phase comme ayant 3 périodes: Ailill Anglonnach, puis Ailill de Connaught, et finalement Ailill roi d'Irlande.
Seulement, dans Persigout je vois qu'Ailill Anglonnach est l'oncle de Medb, et il ne mentionne en aucun cas que cet Ailill là soit son mari.

Qui plus est, dans la Tain Bo Flidais il y a aussi 1 Ailill. Est-ce que les 3 personnages sont bien 1 seule et même personne, ou est-ce que l'auteur a tout simplement regroupé 3 personnes portant le même prénom?

Merci

Déborah

[Sedullos]

Dia duit,
Deborah, a chara,
"Ailill :
An extremely popular name in early Ireland, borne by countless
figures including at least two saints, ten warriors of the Fianna in the Fenian Cycle, and a host of petty kings in genealogies. Perhaps the most widely known of this name is Ailill mac Ma'ta, the husband of Medb in the Ta'in Bo' Cuailnge..."
Dictionary of celtic mythology / James Mackillop.- O.U.P., 2000, p. 8
MacKillop donne 10 notices pour les Ailill.
Sla'n,

[HornedCrapi]

et est-ce qu'il donne 1 notice pour Ailill Anglonnach justement? Et est-ce que tu peux me dire ce que veut dire Ailill mac Mata? Est-ce qu'il y a comme pour Fergus 1 référence à 1 animal?

Merci

Déborah

[Sedullos]

Dictionary of celtic mythology / James Mackillop, p. 8

Ailill A'nglonnach, Anguba [cf Anglon-dach, warlike, valiant].
The brother of Eochaid Airem who is smitten with E'ta'in, Eochaid's wife.
When Ailill fell ill the physician Fachtnatold him that there were two pains
in him that medicine could not cure : the pain of love and the pain of jealousy.
While her husband was away, Ailill revealed his trouble to E'ta'in,who agreed to become his mistress, not for sin, but to save a member of royal family (Ailill) from death.
She did not want to deceive her husband in Tara and thus made an assignation for a nearby hill-top.
E'ta'in met with a man she believed to be Ailill, but it turned out to ber her husband, from a previous incarnation, Midir, who wished to save her from dishonour.
This story is told in the second part of Tomarch E'ta'in [The Wooing of E'ta'in]

idem, p. 9
Ailill mac Ma'ta, mac Matach,
The husband of Medb in the Ta'in Bo' Cuailnge [Cattle Raid of Cooley].
Although he is often described as being "of Connacht", like his wife, the text of the Ta'in describes him as coming from Leinster, of the family of Russ Ruad.
His patronymic distinguishes him from other Ailills, but it is not often used in the texts of narratives. He appeared somewhat henpecked in the pillow-talk opening of the Ta'in but Medb praised him for many qualities, including bravery. Nevertheless,
Ailill persisted in demanding that Medb should not have more possessions than he did. Their daughters are Finnabair and Faife.
In another story, Ta'in Bo' Fraich [Cattle Raid of Fraich], Ailill is a stern father and wily king who opposes the marriage of his daughter Finnabair with Fra'ech to the point of nearly killing the younger man, relenting only when Fra'ech kills a dragon and recovers a ring swallowed by a salmon.
He assists, Angus O'g to besiege Ethal Anbu'ail, with whose daughter Angus O'ghas fallen in love. He sends Nera on his quest in Echtra Nerai [The adventure of Nera].
Later, Ailill is slain by Conall Cearnach at Medb's urging when she finds her husband unfaithful.

Commentaire :
Hormis le saumon, le dragon et Mata qui pourrait évoquer le nom de l'ours, en irlandais, exemple Mathgamain, il n' y a ici d'autres bêtes que nous deux, ma douce crapinette