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la colline de Tara menacé de destruction ! ( ?)

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la colline de Tara menacé de destruction ! ( ?)

Messagede Luernos » Lun 22 Nov, 2004 11:04

J’ai reçu ce message…
C’est un Hoax ou pas ?
On en parle pas sur : http://www.hoaxbuster.com/

Qu’en pensez vous ?

Si c’est vrai, il me semble important de réagir…

Mais j’ai un gros doute
Ça me semble tellement gros de la part du gouvernement Irlandais :-(



Le célèbre site de la colline de Tara (Hill of Tara en VO), Irlande, est
menacé de destruction! Il a en effet été décidé qu'une autoroute passerait
par la vallée de Tara, ce qui risque de causer des dommages irréparables à
un des sites archéologiques les plus riches d'Irlande. Si ce projet se
concrétisait, le monde celtique perdrait un de ses plus grands trésors. Je
vous encourage donc tous à signer une pétition contre le passage de cette
autoroute sur le site de Tara à cette adresse:
http://www.petitiononline.com/hilltara/petition.html. Vous trouverez
ci-dessous la lettre qui va être envoyée au Premier ministre d'Irlande.

Merci à tous d'avance!

Keltia
----- Original Message ----- > To: Prime Minister of Ireland, Mr Bertie
Ahern
Dear Taoiseach Ahern,

I object the planned routing of the M3 motorway through the Tara-Skryne
valley, and the resulting despoilment this will cause to Ireland's oldest
and most revered national monument.

The archaeological importance of this area is beyond question. After
seven
years surveying the Hill of Tara and its 80km_ hinterland as director of
the
government funded Discovery Programme, Conor Newman said: "Tara is one of
the most important and famous archaeological complexes in the world.. all
of
our researches point to the valley between Tara and Skryne as an area of
paramount importance throughout the history of Tara."

More recently, 12 eminent Irish historians and archaeologists in letters
to the Irish Independent and The Examiner wrote: "The Hill of Tara
constitutes the heart and Soul of Ireland. Its very name invokes the
spirit
and mystique of our people and is instantly recognisable worldwide. The
plan
approved recently by An Bord Pleanála for the M3 motorway to dissect the
Tara-Skryne valley, Ireland's premier national monument, spells out a
massive national and international tragedy that must be averted."

Can anyone doubt the profound cultural importance of Tara and its unique
landscape? A landscape honoured and revered by millions throughout the
world
today and countless generations of Irish people gone before us.
Nowhere else in Ireland is there a landscape that can claim the Tuatha
de
Danann, Celtic Gods and Goddesses, St. Patrick, Daniel O'Connell, Thomas
Moore, heroes and High Kings from Fionn MacCumhail to Brian Boru, an
archaeological complex of temples, tombs, enclosures and henges spanning
five millennia, and a continuous place at the centre of Irish spiritual,
cultural, political and literary history, as part of it's fabric.

Yet it is through the very heart of this landscape, that Meath County
Council, the NRA and the Irish Government wish to build a motorway, which
will impact at least 141 known sites. According to Dr Conor Newman, this
is
just "the tip of the iceberg".

Roads, of course, are necessary to relieving the nightmare of traffic
congestion. However, in the absence of any plans to improve the Navan
Road/M50 roundabout, the M3 project will not relieve congestion, it will
merely move it from one place to another; plugging the worst bottleneck
between Navan and Dublin even tighter. Spending ?680m on an ineffectual
motorway that will ruin Tara forever, cannot be described as progress;
rather it constitutes wanton vandalism on a grand scale.

The National Roads Authority has released an estimate of ?20m to
excavate
the route of the M3. I believe this figure could be closer to ?100m, since
there are more than likely so many monuments yet to be discovered, due to
a
low-grade geophysical survey carried out during the EIS. I strongly object
to this amount of Irish taxpayers money being used to dig up our prize
national monument, and other national monuments all around the country,
especially in light of the recent High Court finding that heritage
protection regulations enacted by your Government are unconstitutional.

And so I am moved to ask you three questions:

1). The M3 plans include the construction of a 34 acre floodlit
intersection (Blundelstown) a mere 1,090 meters from the Hill of Tara's
core
zone (as defined by OPW); what has, or will, your Office do to preserve
the
national monument of Tara from this permanent defacement?

2). Why are the people of Ireland being asked to pay ?1.3 billion (via
toll charges and taxes) for a project estimated at ?64, but which cannot
demonstrably relieve congestion, will lead to more violations of the Kyoto
agreement, and will damage our national heritage irretrievably?

3). What will your Office do to urge re-consideration of the currently
approved route for the M3, and/or to engage in a process of generating
alternative effective solutions to the very real problem of traffic
congestion in the area, such as reopening the Dublin to Navan railroad?

I look forward to your reply, and in the meantime urge you, in your
capacity as Taoiseach to oppose the imminent despoilment of Tara by the M3
motorway, and to do all you can in working for the reversal of this
disastrous decision.



Sincerely,

From: http://www.petitiononline.com/hilltara/petition.html (sign te
petition)

This would be a sad loss for the Celtic world :-(
Luernos
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Messagede Hadañ drailh » Lun 22 Nov, 2004 12:19

:shock: :shock: :shock:
j'espère que c'est vraiment un Hoax...

remarquez, on a des choses du même genre en france aussi (d'un point de vue symbolique et non archéologique cette fois) :
http://www.agencebretagnepresse.com/fetch.php?id=1536
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Messagede Guillaume » Lun 22 Nov, 2004 13:27

Salut,

Au niveau de l'info, ca ne semble pas être faux... :cry:

http://forum.archeo.info/viewtopic.php?t=467

En faisant une recherche sur google, on trouve plusieurs pages qui évoquent le passage d'une autoroute près de Tara. Maintenant il reste à voir la validité de cette pétition, car la majorité sur le net n'est pas très sérieuse...
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Messagede Luernos » Lun 22 Nov, 2004 13:33

ben j'ai posé la question sur le forum de Hoaxbuster...
bon au bénéfice du doute ... je préfère signer au cas ou
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Messagede Hadañ drailh » Lun 22 Nov, 2004 18:40

au fait, ce site n'est pas protégé normallement? Même pas classé patrimoine mondial?
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Messagede Pierre » Lun 22 Nov, 2004 19:57

Salut à tous,

Si c'est un Hoax, il est tenace.

Rónán m'en avait déjà parlé en avril :shock:



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Messagede mikhail » Lun 22 Nov, 2004 20:19

Si c'est un hoax, il me semble avoir lu sur leur site (hoaxbuster.com) que ça pouvait durer .. des années, avec un petit réveil de temps à autre, par un zozo de plus qui tombe dessus et relance.

Un aute inconvénient de l'Internet est l'avalanche de messages que ça peut déclencher, persistant bien au-delà d'une date pourtant précisée.
Etc.

Voir sur ce site ! (je parle de hoaxbuster...)
Le pire est que ces hoax sont basés sur la réponse "automatique" à un sentiment bien humain : la compassion, le dévouement à la cause des autres...

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Messagede Hadañ drailh » Lun 22 Nov, 2004 21:12

si c'est un hoax, il est très bien fait...
http://www.taraskryne.org/taraflyer.pdf

personnellement, pousser la plaisanterie aussi loin et avec autant de soins, je n'y crois pas. Je pense que c'est une info et pas une intox... malheureusement.
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Messagede Hadañ drailh » Mar 23 Nov, 2004 13:54

Bon, deux nouvelles:

- la première c'est que ça n'a rien d'un Hoax

- la deuxième c'est que ça semble évoluer dans le bon sens (enfin si j'ai bien compris, parceque moi et l'anglais...

récupéré sur une ML a écrit:STATEMENT BY EAMON GILMORE TD
Labour Party Spokesperson on the Environment

DAIL TO DISCUSS LABOUR MOTION ON CONTROVERSIAL M3 ROUTE THROUGH TARA AREA

The Dail will this week discuss a Labour Party Private Members Motion
calling on
the government not to put the M3 motorway through the Hill of Tara and its environs. The motion calls on the government to look at alternative transport proposals and to direct the National Roads Authority to re-consider othern options for the route of the road. The motion will be debated in Private Members Time on Tuesday and Wednesday.

The Labour Party Spokesperson on the Environment, Deputy Eamon Gilmore, said today that his party was very conscious of the urgent need to improve transport links along the Cavan-Dublin corridor. "However, I think it is clear that if the NRA proceeds with the current controversial route it will inevitably mean that the whole project will become bogged down in endless bouts of litigation.
The result will be that motorists will continue to be asked to spend
endless hours trapped in frustrating traffic jams.

"There is a very genuine concern that putting a major road project along
such a sensitive route will inevitably result in irreparable damage to a unique part of our historical and cultural heritage. We cannot afford to ignore the views of a wide range of experts, both Irish and international, who have warned of the potential destruction that could be caused to our archaeological heritage.

Tara is the centre of the Celtic World and it is fair to say also that on
this occasion the concern extends beyond those who would see themselves as environmental activists and is shared by a wide cross-section of the community.

"There are a number of planned road projects along the Cavan-Dublin
corridor that are largely non-controversial and that could, and should, proceed without further delay, including the Dunshaughlin, Kells and Navan by-passes.
In addition, the government should be putting greater effort into reducing the need for road traffic by the provision of a Dublin-Navan rail link. A
significant part of the infrastructure for this is already in place.

"Crucially, the M3 does not have to take the proposed route adjacent to
Tara through the Skyrne valley. There are alternative routes that need to be looked at again.
"The best way of protecting our heritage and avoiding long delays is for
the Minister for the Environment to use the powers available to him to direct the NRA to re-consider other options for the road."

Councillor Dominic Hannigan, who is Chairman of the Meath County Council Planning and Development SPC and the Labour Party candidate in the forthcoming by-election said:
"Meath people are needlessly spending hours of their valuable time in
traffic jams in Kells, Navan and Dunshaughlin. They have a genuine concern that the badly needed M3 is never going to happen because of the dispute over Tara.

"There is a practical and sensible solution, but it is not the one
this government is pursuing. Build the bypasses around Kells, Navan and
Dunshaughlin now. This will improve the quality of life for both commuters and residents alike. While the bypasses are being built an intelligent and sensitive redesign of the proposed motorway can be undertaken

ENDS CONTACT EAMON GILMORE @ 087-2200495 OR CLLR. DOMINIC HANNIGAN @
>087-6418960

>COPY OF MOTION ATTACHED.
>
>
>
> NOTICE OF MOTION
>
>
>That Dail Eireann considering:
>· the necessity to improve transport links along the Cavan-Dublin
>corridor;
>· the importance of the Hill of Tara National Monument and its environs;
>· the inevitable road construction delays which will result and the
>inevitable destruction of heritage if the National Roads Authority persists
>with
>its current plan to build the M3 through the Tara/Skryne area; and
>· that the Minister for the Environment, Heritage and Local Government is
>currently considering his options under the National Monuments Act;
>
>calls on the government to
>a) address the current transport problems on this corridor by proceeding
>immediately with the Dunshaughlin, Kells and Navan by-passes, by other road
>improvements and the provision of a Navan-Dublin rail link;
>b) direct the NRA to immediately re-consider other options for the
>proposed
>M3: and
>c) discontinue their plans to route the M3 through the Tara/Skryne Valley.
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